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24 Sep 2017 00:07:19
Enjoyable second half after a woeful first.
Had Murphy converted one of his two great second half headed chances we would have had an unlikely point.

Ben Osborn has his critics but i thought when he came on he gave us much needed momentum and at least tries to drive the team forward. Granted he gives the ball away on occasion but always gives his all and is a far better option than Bouchalakis and Bridcutt who seem pedestrian in comparison.

Brereton is a complete waste of a shirt at the moment. Yes being played out of position but his body language is all wrong. As No 22 so rightly said there is no excuse for not putting in a shift. Move him or lose him. Darikwa is very poor defensively and it baffles me why he starts ahead of Lichaj. Cohen, Vaughan,Ward and Mancienne would i think make a massive difference to us but they are rarely fit. Mckay is our only highlight at present but more often than not finds himself against three players.

Every time the ball goes in our half i fear we will concede and that cannot be right. I don't pretend to have all the answers but something ain't right and all of you that say we are a work in progress are just deluded. A very frustrated Forest fan.

Believable3 0Unbelievable

24 Sep 2017 06:12:20
Completely agree, we need Mancienne back in the defence, Worrall needs to be dropped for a few games.
We defo need a solid defender & a good goal keeper in Jan window.

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21 Sep 2017 00:13:06
The reality check for everyone should haves kicked after tonight. We are miles off from walking the walk in the Championship despite teams being a little more forgiving in front of goal.

Our current game plan has been exposed big time again and now we are on course for the bottom third of the league finish.

MW is a bright bloke and should now know who in his squad are going to keep him in a job and so he now needs adapt the system to reflect individual capabilities rather than wed himself to an admirable ethos of play which the current squad are incapable of delivering.

He has given his newbies and youngsters a chance and they are learning the hard way. Time now pick the best square and round pegs for the right holes just like OBE did irrespective of transfer fee or potential.

Time also to set up and start being hard to beat first and then get the best out the creatives in the final third.

The rollercoaster continues. In MW we must trust to make the changes to get it right?

Believable19 8Unbelievable

21 Sep 2017 05:26:23
Warbo is not that bright. Time and again he tries to get average players to play his way and not a better way. We have not replaced lansbury not replaced britt. Clueless in defence. We pressure our selves with idiotic playing it out frkm the back with players not comfortable in posession. Velios behind the likes of walker???? Hobbs will be dropped again and never gets a run. Nope warbo talks gobbldy gook. Still no vocal skipper, mancienne tonight who is mouse like. He will lose ths dressing room if he has not done so already. We have not got the agression and drive on the pitch!!!!!

Agree14 7Disagree

21 Sep 2017 07:26:03
Rangers fan here guys. MW and DW are out of their depth. They done well with Rangers in the Scottish Championship but were soon found out in the Premier League. If they can't master that then they have no chance in the English Championship which of course if a far better standard. For DW being a center half, i am bemused at how unorganized the defenses at both clubs have been. MW knows plan A. if it doesn't work he will say 'we will look at it, analyse it and try plan A again' Absolutely clueless and doesn't do change. McKay is a really good player with massive potential and should do well, Cummings is also a very good player (disappointed he didn't come to Rangers) so they have brought in two good talents however i fear the results will continue to be poor.

Agree14 3Disagree

21 Sep 2017 11:00:22
MW always says his team will be well prepared in every press conference. Well Mr Warburton you are becoming a very predictable man on and off the pitch. Earn your pay and sort it out quickly because much more of this and you will not be in a job.

Agree9 2Disagree

21 Sep 2017 11:04:57
MW also needs to stop with the 3 at the back crap it just doesn't work ffs. Joe warrall making loads of costly mistakes again last night. Henderson didn't look one but interested :-/ we need to play a solid 442.

Agree9 1Disagree

21 Sep 2017 14:01:03
We don't trust in suicide, play it in you own area football?
So no, I'm sorry? I don't trust in MW

If that's what He's bringing. Especially to this of all leagues then he only has himself to blame.

He's displaying a total lack of awareness. That'll get a manager sacked at the golden arches.

A 5-year-old could do better and watching it makes my eyes bleed.

Agree8 5Disagree

21 Sep 2017 14:35:30
No22 I agree. MW is making a noose for his own neck. The owners are not going to allow him to re-run last season results and will act before the fans turn on him if he does not wake up and smell the coffee?

The last thing we really need is another manager change. However, given progress on and off the pitch since last year Forest would be fishing a bigger manager pool than before if someone decides to get trigger happy?

Agree10 3Disagree

22 Sep 2017 07:01:41
I don't need a reality check, Nffc are a mid table Championship club and I accept that, it would just be nice to see some common sense applied when selecting 11 players.

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22 Sep 2017 12:52:48
Exactly that Longeatonred, this is his downfall
We have decent wingers but he plays BB on the wing?
We have goals in Vellios but he doesn't make the bench?
We play one up front then Change it when time is running out like against Wolves?

Don't get me wrong MW has brought in some quality players but he doesn't know how to use them

We create chances then drift a ball into a box with 5 or 6 defenders and Murphy?

I would rather play two strikers and attack the opposition rather than kill ourselves trying to grab a goal on the break

Agree7 0Disagree

22 Sep 2017 13:30:38
Spot on redog

Agree3 1Disagree

22 Sep 2017 19:25:08
OMG 8 league games in, won 4, lost to the Premier Leagiue champions in the League Cup, absolute disaster. I guess I'd better cut up my season card now as it's clear we will end up in League 2 soon. Get a life and a sense of proportion you lot.

Agree5 3Disagree

22 Sep 2017 19:51:27
Top man some want it all,they must have been listening to queen.
I want all,I want it all and I want it now.
Nice to hear someone talking sense.

Agree1 3Disagree

24 Sep 2017 05:58:44
mw is making forest a laughing stock with is tac xmas forest will be down at the bottom.

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20 Sep 2017 23:47:29
Evening guys.
I wrote on here last week that Mr Warburton may well be out of his depth tactic wise. I really hoped I was wrong but seems not. We were never going to beat Chelsea but a real game plan would have helped. And yes, I was there.
Sir Brian wouldn't be impressed.

Believable9 1Unbelievable

21 Sep 2017 05:30:45
Ppl keep saying work in progress. Where is the progress? We have not been convincing even in winning. It seems its warbo's way or no way. He confuses me!!!!

Agree6 2Disagree

21 Sep 2017 09:53:52
Rutland they mean progress over time a season or so not a few weeks lol have a word with yourself doomer

Agree2 4Disagree

21 Sep 2017 11:21:52
Doomer???? Realist more like. He had 12 or more matches at end of season. All pre season and about 11 matches thus season. Work in progress???? Regress more like. The players seem bored with him.

Agree5 4Disagree

21 Sep 2017 12:10:29
Its not going to be champagne football by the end of September if that's the progress you maybe expecting Rutland. It is a work in progress, personally I think people really should try and be a bit more patient. If we win on Sat does it mean we have turned the corner, no, if we lose does it mean we're getting relegated, no.

It is frustrating to watch us give silly goals away but think he needs more time to achieve what he is trying to do.

Put this game in perspective, we played Chelsea away in a cup game with 8 change ourselves. The bookies gave us 20-1, I was at the game and you always hope but really weren't going to win that one. Chelsea were ruthless with their chances.

Agree3 5Disagree

21 Sep 2017 12:47:33
Yup agree ginger and i am certainly not remarking on the result lastnight. It was funny watching hazard bully mancs and worral to the ground thoughπŸ˜„

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21 Sep 2017 13:58:04
Sorry Gingerkid, but I don't think it's that easy to just gloss over performances this season under MW. Against Chelsea, nobody expected a result for us, but what I did expect was for us to put up a good account of ourselves. 2 down after 19 minutes was just embarrassing. For me, MW has made 3 fundamental mistakes with his squad and tactics. Firstly, the defence. His failure to address the situation, having seen what happened last season is very poor management. Secondly, he had no choice over letting Britt leave, but replacing him with Murphy is another error of judgement. Cummings, who I think is a good player, but is unproven at this level. Thirdly, MW's style of play, the total possession football. I'm afraid that ship sailed years ago, and it's just not effective anymore. It's even worse for us, as we have zero attacking instinct so just knock the ball from side to side. Until MW addresses these issues, there will be no progress. Like others on here, the question of ability is now starting to be raised about MW.

Agree6 1Disagree

21 Sep 2017 19:10:20
I'm glad Henderson played last night because it backed up what I thought about him last season.
I know we were unlucky with Federici getting injured but it's a key position in the team and a big weakness for us until at least the new year.

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22 Sep 2017 18:20:04
RR1, yeah, I was amazed at how strong Hazard is for his size, he is a tough little character for someone with such ability. I remember him just shoving Lichaj off when he tried to make a challenge.

I still think its too early to make too much judgement yet Murdoch. I do think Cummings needs more help up top, maybe they can play Murphy with him? I really like Cummings but he is not getting the service.

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23 Sep 2017 12:47:33
I'm amazed Warbo s game plan v Chelsea was to try to out pass a n d out football them. It must have been like the Charge of the Light Brigade heroic but suicidal! As one French general watching at the brave 600 said "C est magnifique mais ne c est pas last guerre" ie it's magnificent but it's not the right way to fight a battle" against impossible odds! So come on Warbo give the lads a bloody chance and be more dogged and pragmatic!

Agree1 0Disagree

23 Sep 2017 21:52:05
People need a reality check. We were poor last year and could not defend. I blame MW for not improving us in any way defensively. Yes we are playing better football, but I honestly think that with the new forward attacking players we have, we have too many options . We have no settled team and players are unable to develope partnerships as too much change. Make us difficult to beat first, then improve our attacking. Ben B seams to have gone backwards

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19 Sep 2017 22:10:20
Heard jack Lester in talks with Chesterfield over managers job.

Believable0 3Unbelievable

20 Sep 2017 12:24:57
Hope not jack is vitel part of the forest set up

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20 Sep 2017 16:49:58
He will go if he gets offered the gig as he will want a crack at his old club. He can always come home again if it does not work out?

Agree1 2Disagree

20 Sep 2017 22:55:23
Have you got bionic ears or did you have a glass against his wall?

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20 Sep 2017 23:26:46
That's total "glass" eer,ear.

Agree0 1Disagree

18 Sep 2017 12:19:38
Having read reports on Saturday's game in Wolverhampton's press they are delighted with their win. Wolves regard it as a huge win, and a big win. As I saw with Wolves play they gave us respect in the first half, less so in the second. Most teams when they play us say that they expect to get something from the game. After if they get a result they are over the moon, so don't think we are not improving, we are.

Believable1 2Unbelievable

18 Sep 2017 16:21:38
I think we have improved in some ways but lacking so much in defence plus I noticed that yeah we like to play it on the ground but spend half of it going backwards don't seem to be able to move the ball quickly sometimes I also think Eric should get in the team , one thing that did puzzle me we played one upfront at home which seemed negative while wolves played three upfront

Agree7 0Disagree

18 Sep 2017 16:23:53
If I was any other championship team about to play us I would think they have some decent players going forward and have a goal in them but they are crap at the back and vulnerable at set pieces. Full backs that love to getting forward but can't defend for toffee.
We are a team that has improved as a squad from last season and are sorting things out off the pitch but I suspect teams are hardly quaking in their boots at the thought of playing us.

Agree4 1Disagree

18 Sep 2017 21:07:31
how can you say there improving.they lose and that's improvement. goals against will be like a cricket score end of season.face the facts,they are not improving.they can't score.cant defend,and can't fathom out mw,s tactics plan.

Agree5 8Disagree

18 Sep 2017 22:12:28
Won 4 Lost 4. Should have lost to Millwall, but should have beat Barnsley. How many times in the past when we were not fighting relegation did we out play teams but drew or lost. Like RR said they are all tough games. Defending is poor but Warburton's more attack minded, but hopefully he will sort the defence out so they are more organised, plenty of games left to do it.

Agree1 1Disagree

19 Sep 2017 12:07:18
True bright. Plenty of time. Consolidation this season.

Agree1 1Disagree

19 Sep 2017 13:12:45
Typical of a v tight league. Not much to choose between most teams so games not likely to be dominated either way. Stay calm and enjoy the tension :/

Agree2 1Disagree

18 Sep 2017 10:26:29
My biggest concern from Saturday
We never created or got in the Wolves area on more than a couple of occasions from general play.

We were so slow when we got the ball
Wolves were back in numbers and all we did was pass it sideways or back there is no pace in the side.

Wolves moved the the ball far quicker than use.
We have got 12 points but it could have been a lot less
It's not just the mistakes that are causing these defeats it's the set up of the team and the way they are being told to play. As fans we can see the weaknesses so
But there again we are only supporters.

Believable6 3Unbelievable

18 Sep 2017 13:03:24
So long as improvement is being made that is the main thing, yes we can all see where the team is going wrong but they are in a learning process, the teams lapses in concentration and ball watching are the biggest problem. What you have to remember is Wolves in spite of there passing beng quicker it took two bad mistakes from Forest and two good finishes from Jota for Wolves to score at all.

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17 Sep 2017 22:40:51
Suggested team v Chelsea working on the premises that firstly we want to prioritise game v Villa on Saturday, secondly give our fringe players a run out and lastly to keep the score down to a respectable level to maintain our morale bearing in mind we won't see much of the ball in all probability I'd go 4231 with Henderson lichaj rb Hobbes ancients central and Fox left back, then 2 defensive midfielders Vaughn Bouchalakis (even risk young Edser if Vaughn not fit) then Ward (if fit) or Carayol left, Clough central and Cummings right with Velious up top subs walker, and a couple of the academy lads like Gomiz, Ahadomedvic? Mighten? Thoughts, fellow trickies?

Believable1 1Unbelievable

17 Sep 2017 23:06:54
Think we could be in for a tonking Wednesday night.
Hazard will start apparently. MW will try and go toe to toe with them and I fear a cricket score.
Hope I'm wrong.

Agree2 1Disagree

17 Sep 2017 23:11:46
Spellchecker alert Mancienne came out as "ancients" for some reason probably because of the ancient git typing it!

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18 Sep 2017 16:22:54
I put a cheeky 10 on us doing Chelsea 2-1

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19 Sep 2017 19:17:08
Lichaj Hobbs Fox Traore
Edser Vaughan
Carayol Clough Ward

Agree1 0Disagree

10 Sep 2017 20:10:06
It doesn't seem to matter which defenders play, the result is still the same, no organisation and chaotic defending. Simply bringing in another CB would not have solved our problems. It's something that can only be put right by the manager and his coaching staff. Deciding whether we go with a back 5 or back 4 and then sticking to it week in week out would be a start, then drop zonal marking and going man to man marking should help at set pieces.

The leadership qualities of Lichaj should make him a regular in the team and I fail to see what Darwikra has done to keep last year's player of the season out of the team. You would think David Weir should know how to set up a defence. At least the Matt Mills haters can't blame him for yesterday!

Believable33 3Unbelievable

11 Sep 2017 04:59:52
I think a vocal cb to pull other 3 into place and take charge would make a world of difference

Agree13 0Disagree

11 Sep 2017 08:15:39
You are so right but been saying it all along, good luck with the response.

Agree7 0Disagree

11 Sep 2017 09:37:29
I understand the reasoning behind playing the ball out from the back (If you hoof it then the vast majority of the time the ball goes to the opposition) but can we just play it forward quicker from the back in the same way that Liverpool do? 3 passes out and the ball should not be near the Penalty Area it should be near the half way line (unless we are playing against Beckham then it is doubtful that the opponents can shoot from there)

Agree6 0Disagree

11 Sep 2017 12:07:29
We have to be able to mix the way we play, yes playing from the back and possession football is easy on the eye but not if we lose the ball and concede goals. As a defender, if in doubt get it out, better decision making against Leeds and S.Weds may have yielded an extra point or two. I agree about moving the ball quicker too, the longer we take the more time the opposition has to arrange their defence. Problem for Smith is this exposes his poor distribution, time to take him out of the firing line and give us the option of breaking quickly. This style would suit away games and against the better sides at home, just a realistic opinion based on our mid table expectations? FTID

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11 Sep 2017 12:55:59
we don't look well drilled to me, set peices need to be drilled and drilled, and for me need to start marking more man to man instead of more zonal.

beyond me why a steady defender lichaj isn't starting, darikwa a liability to me.

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11 Sep 2017 16:27:16
I'd like to see this defence given time to gel
Licha Manchienne Hobbs/worrell troare
Hobbs if he's fit. Then Vaughen bridgcutt holding
With Mackey dowel osbourn. And Murphy upfront.

Agree2 2Disagree

11 Sep 2017 20:04:00
Playing the ball out the way we do, which is giving it to the first defender is suicide. That defender should then knock it it deep into midfield. No we lass it sideways which allows the opposition to get at us causing nervousness. Playing it long to a decent striker ie murphy or velios allows the defence tobpysh up and get bsck in formation. Simples. If the ball does come straight back we shouldbe organised to deal with it. Playing it out from the back is pk in the prem where the opposition strikers will back off. not in this league.

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11 Sep 2017 20:24:29
Rr1. The longer you pass the ball the more likely it is to be intercepted, or for it to go astray. A player should run then pass, then move again, and off course a players pass needs to be accurate.

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11 Sep 2017 21:43:56
Abf correct but we gave possesion to weds in dreadful areas which led to goals. Listen. Pearce would often take the ball from sutton, webb ot hodge would show for him and an early accurate pass from pearce would get us moving forward. Not this pish from sat where the ball was nervously batted about with no conviction. Play to your strengths. Fox worral and darikwa were terrified in posession.

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13 Sep 2017 10:01:41
We certainly need to sort out the back. I personally think Darikwa is a decent solid back, i can remember the beginning of the last two seasons fans saying Lichaj was a liability when we were leaking goals. Keep Darikwa on the right, Lichaj can play on the right with Mancienne and another in the middle, Worral or Fox.

Agree1 3Disagree

13 Sep 2017 10:08:33
Ooops, I meant Lichaj can play on the left!

Agree1 3Disagree

10 Sep 2017 00:00:11
Think we'll get a result at Sunderland, Matt mills had been rested and will now lead us to victory over them and wolves

Believable12 14Unbelievable

10 Sep 2017 08:56:27
Unless we've gone into another downward spiral again. We seem to start and sometimes finish seasons ok but lose it in the middle. As in previous years NFFC have little consistency whether it be not having the right players, not using the right formation or just not being good enough. We will give time to MW but as I said earlier this season the warning signs are already out.

Agree4 2Disagree

10 Sep 2017 09:07:57
I am not complaining here and feel that the club under new owner and MW is at its best it's been for several years. However what I don't understand is that they have failed to strengthen the team in the really obvious areas. It was clear that we needed a GK with Championship experience a LB and a CB who could provide experience and stability to our back four. I love the team when they are going forward but when defending and when Smith is in goal it fills me with dread and I just think "ok, who will make the mistake this time and hand the opposition a goal scoring opportunity on a very large plate". MW must enter the loan market and work his magic to find the players we need to strengthen the team or this will continue to happen every game.

Agree7 2Disagree

10 Sep 2017 09:52:13
There is no loan market. Can only sign players during transfer windows. Now have to wait until January

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10 Sep 2017 10:05:29
It's not the players, it's the team selections and formations
One up front and BB on the wing?
Eric on the bench and Vellios not even getting a sniff?
Not even looking for defenders during the market?
Warbo is the problem I'm afraid

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10 Sep 2017 10:12:54
Free agent?

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10 Sep 2017 11:29:10
Velios and eric?? Mystery to me. Our crossjng is woeful even at set pieces. Eric drives us forward with momentum and delivers good balls, defencively better than we put out. Hobbs if he stays fit is a must and should be captain. Little passion yesterday other than BenO. In possesion we were turgid with no direction just sideways for the sake of keeping posession. Warbo is flawed and will lose the dressing room. The removal of clough was harsh as he was just getting into the game and bouch just tip tapped the ball, he did unleash two great shots but the game was gone by then. If you want to plsy the ball out from the back you need footballers. Weds just put an extra man up top to pressure our feeblede fenders in posession. Plan B should have been murphy on earlier alongside cummjngs and more route one so our defence could re shape quicker. Losing is part of the game but the manner in which we lost yesterday was very poor.

Agree5 2Disagree

10 Sep 2017 18:51:19
We just cannot afford to keep playing 3-5-2!!! We don't have the personnel to play that formation,an inform Carayol can take a couple of players out of a game, allowing space for Dowell's,and yes even Clough to do their thing. look how Britt hoovered up the chances from Traore??? No one could handle him.

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10 Sep 2017 19:49:29
Help me out folks, is this an NFFC rumours page? Or is it an NFFC I think I'm a better manager than Mark Warburton page? Get a grip lol

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10 Sep 2017 20:55:41
This team reminds me of the one where we had 6 bloody strikers. Far too top heavy. Great teams start at the back with a solid base. We never look like not conceding goals, and that's not how great teams are built. Keeper is average, defence is not right, and our midfield just want to score goals. what also concerns me is the amount of times warburton changes formation every single game . What that does is confuse players and the strategy that I hope has been worked on all week then goes out of the window. STOP conceding goals from set pieces. STOP bloody changing formation. GET a solid defence and maybe call name derbgetting a leader in the team. There's something wrong when we have Worral as a captain when he's so young and should not have the burden at that age

Agree2 1Disagree

10 Sep 2017 21:27:38
I of love how many 'experts' we have on this page, many of whom they could do a better job that our manager.

Tell you what, pull up your trousers and give it a fucking crack, see how far you get!

Fact is, we are looking a million times better than have been for some time. Yes it will take a little time for the players to gel and to grips woth the style of play MW wants, and which we all want if we are honest, so back off. Give them a little time, a few weeks at least, and let's see how it goes.

Or carry on whining like bitches and ostracise the team at a time when we should be getting behind them.

Your choice

Agree5 6Disagree

10 Sep 2017 22:45:42
RAP, I've no doubt everyone on here is behind the manager and the team and want us to do the best we can, but the lessons about our porous defence over the last few years do not seem to have been learned - you don't have to be an expert football manager to see that. All we are saying is that we are of the opinion that our shortcomings let us down and need to be addressed, no-one is whining or calling for anyone's head. This is rumours/banter site and people should feel free to say what they like whether others agree with their feelings/views or not. We don't need to be told we are whiners or letting the players down. Growing up as far as I remember is not a choice, it just happens or it doesn't.

Agree5 1Disagree

11 Sep 2017 08:16:56
Well win a few well lose a few we've got 9 points Fulham have lost one but drawn most better defence,but whoes got the most points?
Give it time,it's a long season
Look at villa,and Brum and some of you think we have problems?

Agree1 1Disagree

11 Sep 2017 09:38:44
Comparing our current position to last season when we nearly got relegated is irrelevant. What concerns most here is the fact we can't defend. It's great having wing backs who shoot forward and great at passing. Good defenders know when to hoof it, and when to play it. Every game I know we will gift a goal to opposition team. We have kept out two of our best players out of the team it seems to justify players MW has bought. Carayol was a player I was looking forward to seeing this year but he's hardly played. Same with Eric and vellios. Not convinced yet but we do have to give him time

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07 Sep 2017 17:53:25
David Vaughan is unable to play against Sheffield Wednesday, Cohen has had a small operation on his knees, so will be out for Weeks yet, and Ward will be back soon.

Believable0 0Unbelievable

07 Sep 2017 19:46:11
Time is right for the mighty Bouch and Bridcutt to cement a midfield partnership. Hope they work for each other.πŸ‘ COYR.

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